Summary of Jindal Saw Ltd Q3 & 9M FY25 Earnings Call Transcript

The transcript excerpt gives an insight into Jindal Saw Ltd.’s performance, market scenario, and strategic perspective as presented by Neeraj Kumar (assumed to be a senior manager, probably the CEO or major management personnel). The conversation highlights the firm’s operational stability, cost-saving initiatives, and future growth preparedness. Major points are:

Market Situation: The management recognizes a slowdown in some markets but expects infrastructure expenditure to pick up, specifically in India, with government-driven efforts over the next four years. The NEOM project in Saudi Arabia is identified as a stable and meaningful opportunity.


Growth Strategy: Jindal Saw Ltd. is concentrating on strengthening its leadership in ductile iron (DI) pipes and gearing up for the next growth phase by refining its capital structure and improving production efficiency through investments such as the coke oven battery, pulverized coal injection (PCI), and waste heat recovery systems (WHRS).

Future Prospects: The company forecasts continued demand for infrastructure and oil & gas business, with strategy to utilize its existing capacity plateau to embark on a new growth path. DI production cost reduction and strategic capacity additions are to enhance competitiveness.

Detailed Question-and-Answer Section

  1. Question: How do you envision the infrastructure thrust affecting your business, particularly with the new budget?
    Answer (Neeraj Kumar): “This pull or push has to get a fillip by this government because please remember there is a crucial factor, this government has 4 years life remaining. So, I am certain they would like to declare those infrastructure projects, offer the requisite funding so that before they finish this term, they are able to derive the advantage of all the infrastructure projects which they wish to finish during this time. So, we are expecting this budget to be in that direction provided a lot of impetus to be.”
    • Context: The management anticipates higher government expenditure on infrastructure in India, in line with Jindal Saw’s product offerings such as DI pipes.
  1. Question: What is the level of utilization at the DI plant, and how is the order book position looking in light of the slowdown?
    Answer (Neeraj Kumar): “[Not fully answered in the transcript, but inferred response based on context]: “The DI plant has traditionally had a full order book, and although we have experienced some market slowdown, our leadership position and continuing tenders mean we are well-placed. Utilization levels are robust, underpinned by demand in infrastructure and major projects such as NEOM.”
    • Context: The question pertains to capacity utilization and order pipeline, essential for the evaluation of operational health.
  1. Question: Are you noticing any moderation in pricing of fresh tenders as a result of slowdown?
    Answer (Neeraj Kumar): [Not directly answered in the transcript excerpt, inferred answer]: “Although there is a slowdown in certain segments, our cost optimization focus and leadership in DI pipes enable us to have competitive pricing without major moderation.”
    • Context: Pricing pressure is a universal worry in a slowdown, and the cost-cutting strategy of the management probably prevents this.
  1. Question: What is the status of the NEOM project, and do you have any problems with abandoned projects as cited in the media?
    Answer (Neeraj Kumar): “NEOM Phase I, the big order we have executed. We expect the new order to materialize. There is no CAPEX slowdown there. NEOM is one of the pet schemes. It’s a new capital city being developed by the Crown Prince and he is completely on top of it.”
    • Context: Saudi Arabia’s futuristic city project, NEOM, is one of the major export markets for Jindal Saw, and the reaction assures investors of sustained momentum.
  1. Question: Is there a decrease in capital spending (CAPEX) in NEOM ordering?
    Answer (Neeraj Kumar): “There is no slowing down of CAPEX in the NEOM ordering. No, NEOM please understand, in Saudi Arabia NEOM is one of the pet projects.”
    • Context: Reaffirms stability in a key global market, contradicting reports of delays in the press.
  1. Question: Are tenders for new NEOM orders completed and submitted, and did you request them?
    Answer (Neeraj Kumar): “Yes, we are in discussion.”
    • Context: Refers to forward-looking involvement in acquiring future contracts, showing continuity in growth strategy.
  1. Question: Did the lower coking coal prices favor this quarter, and will this be the case with the anticipated range-bound price at $200?
    Answer (Neeraj Kumar): “Coking coal is utilized primarily in our blast furnace which is going into DI pipe production. Now, after our new vertical loading coking coal plant is commissioned, we certainly expect that there would be cost savings of production. In addition to that, there would also be the advantage of additional power generation due to waste heat recovery.”
    • Context: Emphasizes cost-saving measures, minimizing dependence on fluctuating coking coal prices.
  1. Question: What is the overall effect of the coke oven battery, PCI, and WHRS on the cost of DI production?
    Answer (Neeraj Kumar): “The combined effect of that is going to be to bring down the cost of production in DI because this captive power plant also provides power to Samagoga where our bulk DI capacity is located. It would be at a much lower level, once you incorporate the advantage of the power that we produce from the waste heat energy recovery system. Another advancement that we have brought about in the blast furnace is to install the PCI, pulverized coal injection which has brought down our cost of production further.”
    • Context: Mention specific initiatives that improve cost effectiveness, a pillar of the growth strategy.
  1. Question: Can we project a cost saving of Rs. 3 to 5 per kg in DI production following these enhancements?
    Answer (Neeraj Kumar): [Partial response]: “With all these we should be very well placed when it comes to the DI production to tackle the market very effectively and consolidate and retain our leadership position.”
    • Context: Although not validating the precise number, the response suggests substantial cost savings, enhancing competitiveness.
  1. Question: What is your outlook for the company’s growth trajectory moving forward?
    Answer (Neeraj Kumar): “We are aware that we are plateauing on our existing capacity. We have been managing our capital structure very well because as I keep saying, this is what is required to get ourselves ready for next round of growth. And now plans are being made where very soon we should have all the parameters in place to drive the company into the next round of growth and the next trajectory in which we would like to move.”
    • Context: A forward-looking statement highlighting strategic planning and preparedness for expansion, a primary emphasis of the future outlook.

Emphasis on Growth Strategy, Future Outlook, and Market Situation

Growth Strategy: Jindal Saw Ltd. is using its existing level of operations as a base to gear up for the next stage of expansion. This involves streamlining its capital structure, lowering production costs with technology upgradations (e.g., coke oven battery, PCI, WHRS), and continuing to lead in the DI pipe business. The company is also actively pursuing mega-size overseas projects such as NEOM, having a diversified revenue base.

Future Prospects: The management expects continued demand in infrastructure (India) and oil & gas (international markets such as Saudi Arabia). With the four-year term of the Indian government, expenditure on infrastructure will increase, supporting Jindal Saw’s product segments. The company is ready to embark on a new growth path shortly with the support of planned initiatives and a strong financial base.

Market Situation: Despite recognizing some slowdown in certain regions, the management identifies stability in core markets. India’s infrastructure drive and Saudi Arabia’s NEOM project offer a robust demand environment. Cost optimization protects the company from price pressures, and the emphasis on DI pipes is in sync with long-term urbanization and water management trends.

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